{"id":3088,"date":"2018-09-27T06:27:59","date_gmt":"2018-09-27T06:27:59","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2020-11-20T02:36:19","modified_gmt":"2020-11-20T02:36:19","slug":"glass-hammer-for-now-we-see-through-the-glass-hammer-but-darkly-d74","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/heavensmetalmagazine.com\/index.php\/2018\/09\/27\/glass-hammer-for-now-we-see-through-the-glass-hammer-but-darkly-d74\/","title":{"rendered":"GLASS HAMMER: For Now We See (Through) the Glass Hammer But Darkly"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><span class=\"inherit-font-size\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">IMAGINARY PROG ROCK BANDS AND TIME TRAVEL. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">No, it&#8217;s not the latest Doctor Who (although singer Susie does have a passing resemblance to the new Doctor), but the latest concept album <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chronomonaut<\/span> from Tennessee&#8217;s prog rock icons Glass Hammer. \u00a0This veteran band has racked up an astounding number of albums in their 25+ years together, and built itself quite a reputation in the prog world. Listen in as we chat with Steve Babb, one half of Glass Hammer&#8217;s creative genius about everything from dead rock stars to death metal.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Hi Steve, Would you call the new album a sequel to <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chronometree<\/span>, or more of a revisitation? Why go back to that storyline in particular?<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"align-center font_8\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/heavensmetalmagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/39dbb9_c7d907598a03421e9d30ce07c93148e4-mv2-9.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"626\" height=\"228.64\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">Steve: <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chronomonaut<\/span> is Part Two of <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chronometree<\/span>, but it also works as a standalone album. Musically, the two albums are nothing alike. The character Tom really resonated with proggers back in 2000 when we released it. Tom was a quirky teenager at the time of that story, but at the core, Tom was a prog fan. Everyone could see a little of Tom in themselves. Not so long ago when some of my prog and pop heroes began to, well, to die\u2026that\u2019s what got me thinking about Part Two. Squire, Emerson, Lake, Wetton, Bowie\u2026the list goes on. It really hit me as it did everyone. So I reasoned that our character Tom might also be deeply moved. He\u2019s grown up now and reached middle age. I thought about how age and the passing of heroes might affect or trigger him.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">You mentioned Emerson and Lake&#8217;s passing. An older friend got me hooked on ELP and I got to see them the night before I left for bootcamp, about when Glass Hammer was getting started. I&#8217;m thoroughly a metalhead, but I have to admit Carl Palmer has to be the best drummer I&#8217;ve ever seen. Who brings gongs on tour so heavy that they break the stage? All 3 of those guys were just over the top.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">Steve: Yep\u2026.I\u2019ve always loved ELP. They aren\u2019t universally loved in the prog world, which I find strange. I got to meet Carl Palmer and have done 2-3 shows where he was on the bill with us. <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Tarkus<\/span> and <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Trilogy<\/span> are my faves.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">Truthfully, you want to do concept albums that people can relate to. We\u2019re all growing older. If our fans could relate to Tom as a teenager, they can certainly relate to Tom as an adult prog-rocker who still takes his music way too seriously.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">You and Fred Schendel have been the core of Glass Hammer for 25+ years now. Is the use of the time machine a neat way to go back and revisit some of your own band history?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Steve: It\u2019s a neat way to go back for sure. But it\u2019s also an excuse to musically go back in time and do some things we haven\u2019t done in a while, or in some cases things we never did. Some of the album deals with the 80s and we had some fun dabbling in synth-wave tracks on <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chronomonaut<\/span>. There\u2019s a psychedelic vibe to a few tunes as well.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">You&#8217;ve taken this band for the long haul, you&#8217;ve played some really interesting gigs like ProgPower. Is there anything left on your bucket list for GH to do yet? Places to play, maybe bands to play with?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Steve: We\u2019d love to go to the UK and perform and to be perfectly honest, we\u2019d love to be paid for the performance! We just do not travel anywhere to perform if the band members can\u2019t be paid for their work. That\u2019s why, more often than not, we don\u2019t tour. It doesn\u2019t make sense. The shows you hear about us performing pay great; travel, food, lodging, etc. They treat us like kings. We could book our own tour, of course, and hope for the best. But I\u2019m not a gambler and neither is Fred. We\u2019ve had a great year, with shows in Quebec, Italy, Jersey and Cruise To The Edge. We\u2019re mainly interested in staying in the studio for now. Still, the UK beckons.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">You&#8217;ve been much more of a studio band than a touring band. Is there a certain magic that&#8217;s lost when you can&#8217;t play live, or is that the only way to live two lives (making a living outside music)?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">Steve: There\u2019s a reason why there has been a Glass Hammer for twenty-five years and there\u2019s a reason we have been able to put so many albums out. Well, there\u2019s probably several reasons, but one of the big ones is that we only play key shows at key times. It\u2019s just way too much stress on us and our families to try to live like we did in our twenties \u2013 on the road. That\u2019s what I did for around 5 years. I didn\u2019t even like it then! Don\u2019t get me wrong. I LOVE to perform and I absolutely love to meet our fans. But it is no small feat to rehearse a prog band and recreate these studio albums. Fred and I are full time musicians, whether with Glass Hammer or by producing other artists. In that, we are truly blessed. Our time is usually split between Glass Hammer projects and other studio projects. It\u2019s worked so far.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Are there certain shows, or even certain lineups, where you feel the band was at the top of its game?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">Steve: I have very fond memories of the band we took to NEARfest in 2003 with Walter Moore as guitarist and part-time lead vocalist. We were still finding our way though. That group, fronted by Carl Groves (Salem Hill) a few years later, that was special too. We found ourselves backed by one hundred member choirs and strings sections a couple of times and it was absolutely epic. The recent band we\u2019ve had has really benefited from Aaron Raulson, the most solid drummer we\u2019ve had, and from Susie fronting the band. She\u2019s a fan favorite. So, basically two periods for me. 2003-2007 and 2015-2018.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">The band is down to a foursome now. How does that free up or hinder the creativity vs. times when you&#8217;ve had more band members?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Steve: Nothing against former bandmates, but to quote Fred in a recent conversation, \u201cThis was the best thing that could have happened to us.\u201d Fred and I were suddenly left to ourselves and began to rely on each other again without feeling the need to consult another creative band member on every decision that we made. That was never required of us of course, but we tried really hard to make our former guitarist (and all the others members too) a big part of the creative process. It worked for a while. Now we\u2019re back where we started; two guys writing everything and being helped along by some incredible singers and musicians. Aaron and Susie are 100% Glass Hammer band mates for sure. But they are content to let Fred and me set the course for the band.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Who inspires you as a bassist?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"align-right\" src=\"https:\/\/heavensmetalmagazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/39dbb9_3a52e9d3baea4fc1b4b4727e57475fd6-mv2_d_2666_3986_s_4_2-8.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"350.56\" height=\"524.82\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span class=\"inherit-font-size\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">Steve: I still love the early recordings of Geddy Lee (Rush) and Chris Squire (Yes) and will probably always sound like a mix of the two. There are other players I admire for different reasons, but I play like I play, and I owe it all to those two guys.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Prog rock has passed the half century mark now and bands like Yes and King Crimson have been rocking that vibe the whole time. The scene has ebbed and flowed a bit over the years. Where do you see prog music going in the future?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">Steve: I literally have no idea. I don\u2019t hear the magic of those original acts being replicated. Musically copied, yes. But the magic? I don\u2019t hear it too often. I hope the scene stays healthy though as I hope to be recording prog-rock albums well into the future. My finger isn\u2019t on the pulse anymore, if it ever was. We just do what we do and keep plugging along, hoping our fans will come\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 along for the ride.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">There&#8217;s been a proliferation of progressive tendencies within more extreme subgenres, like death metal in the last decade. As a prog musician, how does that make you feel? Like a proud stepparent- or- get that garbage away from me! That&#8217;s nothing like our music!<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">Steve: We dabbled in Stoner \/ Doom metal on Valkyrie and even just a little on <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chronomonaut<\/span>! I love those subgenres!\u00a0 In fact, that\u2019s where I see the hope. I\u2019ve always loved the obscure music scenes and when I do hear something new that inspires me, it usually comes from that direction.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Where do you find your sources of inspiration for lyrics and music? I know you had a Tolkien inspired album (as has Blind Guardian and others), and C.S.Lewis has found his way into some of your music, including <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chronomonaut<\/span>. Prog seems almost drawn to the fantasy world. Do you have to make a conscious decision whether to make a concept album or not?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Steve: It was a painting of <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">The Lady Of Shallot<\/span> by John Waterhouse which hangs in our studio that inspired The Inconsolable Secret. The story-telling approach to the lyrics came from Tolkien\u2019s The Lays Of Beleriand. The title came from a quote by C.S. Lewis. That quote inspired the finale of <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chronomonaut<\/span>. I\u2019d encourage readers to google \u201cthe inconsolable secret\u201d and read what Lewis said about it. That one quote sums up my approach to every concept album and most of my songs. I\u2019ve always believed too, that God can speak through art. He can speak through anything He wants frankly. I make it a point to ask Him to speak through our music and to inspire me to say the right things in our lyrics. So, my faith is a huge part of my creative process. Movies also inspire us, both Fred and myself. Admittedly, David Lynch\u2019s Twin Peaks, the music and the original TV series has been a source of much inspiration. You can see it in the music video we just released and hear it in the song itself \u2013 &#8220;Melancholy Holiday&#8221; from <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chromononaut<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">How much does your faith come into play with writing for Glass Hammer? Is it easier to put your heart out there and not have it shouted down by the mainstream than it was years ago? I look at a guy like Neal Morse, and it seems he is as well loved as a Christian artist as he was back with Spock&#8217;s Beard.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Steve: Glass Hammer is not a Christian band and we do not play Christian music. We are Christians who play in a band and my lyrics are shaped by my world-view, which happens to be a Christian world-view. I think it\u2019s important to make the distinction. I have never felt comfortable marketing my music to \u201cthe church\u201d. I want Christians to gravitate to us naturally when possible and I want non-Christians to be able to enjoy our music without feeling like they\u2019re being evangelized. If my faith shines through the music of Glass Hammer, and non-Christian listeners pick up on it and are interested \u2013 fantastic! That\u2019s my hope. We\u2019re just providing entertainment for proggers and in a way that is not sneaky at all, and not overtly preachy \u2013 Glass Hammer points the way. <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Lex Rex<\/span> is the closest thing to just \u201cputting it out there\u201d that we\u2019ve ever done. If we do a Part Two (and I have ideas for that), we\u2019ll be putting it out there again. But only because the story involves a Roman soldier\u2019s confrontation with Jesus Christ. It\u2019s just a story, just a legend, and just my take on it. It\u2019s still not the Gospel.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">Well put on the faith questions. You can be a light wherever you find yourself. Not everyone is an evangelist. Your art is a gift from God, so using it makes Him (and us) happy.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">Steve: Here\u2019s a bit of verse that sums it up for me. It\u2019s part 2 of &#8221; Mythopoeia&#8221; from <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">The Breaking Of The World<\/span>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">I saw the light undimmed in ancient glory<br \/>\nRefracting it, it birthed in me a story<br \/>\nI wrote of kings and queens<br \/>\nI wrote of things unseen<br \/>\nOf castles never dreamed<br \/>\nWhose towers ever gleamed<br \/>\nFor that is where my heart led me<br \/>\nAnd ever just ahead I saw that brilliant star<br \/>\nIt whispered through the night<br \/>\nIt secrets, pulsing bright<br \/>\nTelling me of tales which were my own<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The more I wrote, the more the star would show me<br \/>\nThe more I wrote, the less the world would know me<br \/>\nIt laughs but I care not<br \/>\nI wrought what I would wrought<br \/>\nThe world soon lost its hold on me<br \/>\nSome could hear, some could see<br \/>\nFor those I would persist<br \/>\nStand proudly in their midst<br \/>\nThe world will pass away<br \/>\nAnd all its thoughts are dust<\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">What kind of flavors and storyline will we find on<span style=\"font-style: italic;\"> Chronomonaut<\/span>? Anything you would like us to know about the making of the album, or how it compares to <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chronometree<\/span>?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Steve: On <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chronometree<\/span> we met our character Tom who was convinced he was communicating with aliens via his prog rock album collection. Oddly enough, he is based on a real person! <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chronomonaut<\/span> is my made-up sequel to Tom\u2019s story. Now he\u2019s grown older and he reminisces about his failed 80\u2019s prog band, \u201cThe Elf King\u201d. According to the story, we even know Tom and helped him record a song. To bring the character more to life, he has an online presence and his own YouTube channel. Search for The Elf King on YouTube and you\u2019ll hear the song we helped him record! lol. So <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chronomonaut<\/span> is a really quirky piece of work and there are many pieces to the puzzle, mostly in the form of videos on the Glass Hammer YouTube channel. On <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chronomonaut<\/span> we also find that Tom is suffering from \u201cchronic nostalgia\u201d and now thinks his albums are helping him to find the way back in time to a point where he can change all that went wrong in his life. I won\u2019t spoil it by saying more. You\u2019ll have to hear it to know how his story works out!<\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Suppose some of readers are hearing about Glass Hammer for the first time and want to check you out. What&#8217;s a GH primer? To what albums would you send them first, for a proper introduction? The new album, or something else in your extensive back catalog?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Steve: It\u2019s really hard to sum up Glass Hammer in an album. It\u2019s equally hard to sum up any Glass Hammer album by just one song. When you hear <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chronomonaut<\/span> you\u2019ll understand. Songs taken out of context don\u2019t do a good job of describing the album as a whole. But if I were pressed, I\u2019d go with the fan choices. <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chronometree<\/span>, <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Lex<\/span> <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Rex<\/span>, <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">The Inconsolable Secret<\/span> are absolute musts if you\u2019re going to become a Glass Hammer fan. <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">IF<\/span> is another good one. They\u2019re all very different from one another of course. <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Chronomonaut<\/span> will be well received I think. I hope it can take its place alongside the other \u201cclassic\u201d Glass Hammer albums.<\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">Where&#8217;d you hire that creepy guy who stalks Tom in the &#8220;Melancholy Holiday&#8221; video? \ud83d\ude42<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">Steve: We thought it might be fun, and kinda creepy to have me pushing Tom from one scene to the next. It\u2019s probably not an Oscar-worthy performance but I do a pretty good job of staring and walking in a straight line!<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\">\n<p class=\"font_8\" style=\"font-size: 15px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\"><span style=\"font-size: 15px;\">Ha, ha! Thanks for chatting, Steve. 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