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DALE: Thank you for considering me for an interview with HM (ed.- he means Heaven’s Metal)<\/span>. It has been a while for sure.<\/span><\/p>\n Last I heard, you had remarried and moved to New Zealand. Are you still DALE: Yes I am happily married and still living in New Zealand. We recently \n Are you still doing weightlifting competitions?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n \n DALE: No I have retired from weightlifting and even boxing. I have a bag in my garage I pound on from time to time but the bones are not as youthful as they once were, so I take it a bit easier these days.<\/span><\/p>\n \n As rock journalists, we always take it with a grain of salt when artists DALE: I actually missed music from day one and sought out musicians here in And then you starting collaborating with The World Will Burn, Perpetual DALE: Once I got the taste for music back in my mouth, I bit down hard and Was it something specifically that made you want to start up the Bride DALE: I had assumed that once I moved from the States half way around the There’s been a lot of talk about the Snakes in the Playground<\/span> era, and I think it was your most popular album. Bride was on top of its game back then, and touring internationally, people were into it, and then when grunge came crashing in like the next ice age, and nobody but nobody survived and flourished from the metal era. So all the bands took a beating, Bride included, and it took years until they started finding their way again. And no 2 Bride albums were the same- you continued progressing and rolling with the times. So Snake Eyes<\/span> is not Snakes<\/span> II, but it certainly revisits some of the big riffs of that era in your history. What made you look back to that time in your history and attempt to recreate some magic?<\/span><\/p>\n DALE: I had been following the music scene that was existing purely on the I’d have to say that Snake Eyes<\/span> is a real rebirth for the band. What do you DALE: Snake Eyes<\/span> is certainly in my top 3 Bride albums that I have ever Great idea to complete the band with your Brazilian friends, Bride has DALE: Yes, everything was recorded in different locations at different So we only have Troy to blame if this cd is a hit, huh? He certainly brought the big riffs for this album.\u00a0 You can’t escape that monster rhythm on “Famous When I’m Dead.” Almost seems like a revisit to “Everybody Knows My Name.” I always wonder if we’ll see the character from “Hired Gun” come back again?<\/span><\/p>\n DALE: Good comparison. Troy is the riff-man for sure, he can sit down and write a hook and if you ask him to change it he writes another just that quick. The key to being a good musician is not how well you play but how well you create.<\/p>\n \n \n \n Do you think if the Lord tarries, that we will see more Bride albums? And DALE: Never say never, right? I hope Troy sends me more songs one day but it I did an interview with Tom Denlinger from Sardonyx a couple months ago, and he threw down a challenge to the “old guard” of Christian metal, saying that if you were a metal musician back in the day and you are still in the Word, to rise up and write and record new music, take the new generation under wing, and show them how to spread the Gospel in the metal world. Do you have any thoughts on that? Is there still much left to say to the world at large?<\/span><\/p>\n DALE: We artists always are creating, being inspired by new things and so I And along those lines, in 30 years or so, how has the audience changed? DALE: Our audience is an older, more select crowd now who knows what they \n You guys have never shied away from talking about the name of Jesus. It’s still right there in songs like “The Real Jesus,” “Lost Within A Song,” and “Call Out His Name.” Not everything that comes out of my mouth is pure gold. I’ve said a lot of stupid things that reflected me, not Christ in me, and paid the price, but when we proclaim Jesus’ name and men hate us for it, the reward will be there.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n DALE: I have never strayed from the Gospel of Christ when it comes to my personal life. I wake up speaking His name and go to bed each night with the name of Jesus on my lips. I know what He has done for the world and I can never take that for granted.<\/p>\n The lyric writing on this album reflects some of your allegorical type lyrics from earlier albums, rather than the straightforward, face value lyrics like “Soul Winner.” That makes for a refreshing change. The songs like “Heroes” always kept you coming back, because the listener was never positive what you were talking about. A few on the last half even have the same doomy feel as Trouble’s 80’s albums. I’m liking “The Painter” a lot. On “Other Side of Suicide” we finally see the “snake” himself in all his rottenest. “There’s Always\u00a0Tomorrow” just might be my favorite because it comes back to that layered metal guitar sound like your 80’s albums, yet still leaves you with a sad twist, like you lost something precious. It’s funny how you wrote about current events “Fake News.” yet it still echoes songs of the past “Troubled Times.” I guess the times haven’t changed, have they? And they’ll just get worse until Christ comes back. Looks like the need for heavy metal music will always be here.<\/span><\/p>\n DALE: I do pay attention and keep up with both sides of the main arguments out there in the world. Although Jesus is Savior of the world there are so many people that either do not know this or do not believe this to be true. I do not short change God’s love, mercy and grace and I see Him as the Sovereign power in the universe stretching far beyond what we would call eternity. I will always present a message of truth and most of the time in that truth the light and the darkness will cross paths.<\/p>\n
\nthere, or did you come back to the States? What has it been like living so
\nfar from home?<\/span><\/p>\n
\nmoved out of Auckland and to the country after finding a home in the
\ncountry. Life here with Adelinde is great. I never dreamed that I would
\never visit such a place. Now I call this country of Kiwis my home.<\/p>\n
\nsay this is their last album. A few times we thought Bride was over, but
\nafter Incorruptible<\/span>, and then you moved halfway across the world, Bride
\nreally was over for awhile. And it seemed Dale was done with music for a
\ntime, too. You even went on to writing books and painting. You’ve spent
\nmost of your life making music with your brother Troy. Did you find the
\ntime away from the band to be cathartic?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n
\nNew Zealand to form a band and to write songs and that never transpired.
\nThe taste in music here as a whole differs from what I was looking for in a
\nband. Then out of the blue, Alan Zaring, a good friend of mine who as an
\nattorney had seen over some of my legal affairs after I left the States
\nsent me some music that he had written. I was very impressed and asked him
\nif he wanted to try to write some songs together. He started sending me
\nmusic and even sent me a home recording unit and we tossed ideas back and
\nforth across the ocean via the Internet and that is how The World Will Burn
\nformed.<\/p>\n
\nParanoia, and N.O.G. Was it working with different people in a different
\nenvironment that struck the metal spark within you again?<\/span><\/p>\n
\nwouldn’t let go. I just felt a greater need and desire to write and record
\nlike never before. This hunger gave birth to No Other God, N.O.G. my band
\nthat is based in Brazil with Nenel Lucena and to Perpetual Paranoia which
\nis with guitarist\u00a0Tiago James de Souza.<\/p>\n
\nmachine again? Was there something different this time in recording again?<\/span><\/p>\n
\nworld that music for me was basically over. But when The World Will Burn
\nstarted having success, I started pestering Troy my brother to try to write
\nsome Bride tunes. Troy is a very busy man and I did not know if he would
\nfind the time to take on another Bride album but when he finally started
\nsending me music I thought, “Wow, now this is the Bride I remember from the
\nlate 80’s and 90’s. This was the Bride songs that people were wanting. The
\nonly difference was that Troy and I were not sitting in the same room
\nhashing out tunes and rearranging them face to face. We were writing truly
\nindependent from one another, yet when we started putting things together
\nthey were a perfect fit.<\/p>\n
\ninternet and I saw a great lack of quality and good writing. I was
\ndisillusioned at first that people were buying music that just wasn’t that
\ngood and they were being told that is the best there is. I felt a
\nconnection with those that had supported Bride and I wanted to bring
\nquality back. It seems like when I got this vision to restart Bride, bands
\nlike Bloodgood, Sacred Warrior and Deliverance had the same idea to bring
\nquality metal back to the fans. There is a great resurgence of old school
\nrockers bringing their A game back to the arena. It is good to see and to
\nbe part of such a move of music and to be a witness to God working in the
\nlives of both old and young.<\/p>\n
\nand Troy think? What makes the album a success (or a failure) for you?<\/span><\/p>\n
\nrecorded and in order for this album to be a success is if it has staying
\npower in the hearts and the minds of people. Troy and I want for the
\nlistener to feel what we felt as we were writing the songs. These songs are
\nHoly Ghost anointed.<\/p>\n
\nalways had such a special bond with Brazil. Was the album all recorded from your separate homes and put together that way? Are the vocals and bgv’s all sung by you, in layers? Sometimes it sounds like 3 voices, but they all sound a bit like Dale.<\/span><\/p>\n
\ntimes. It was unlike any album Troy and I had ever recorded together. He
\nwould send me the basics of the song, usually a guitar, a bass track that
\nhe played all recorded to a drum machine. Once we were happy with my vocals,
\nwhich I multi layered, we sent the songs to Nenel in Brazil, who re-recorded
\nthe bass, and we added real drums by bringing on Brazilian sensation Aposan
\nAlexandre. So the drums, which is always the first thing a band records,
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\nwill we ever see Bride play live again?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n
\nis up to him. I am always ready. As far as Bride playing live again?
\nOutside of Troy and I getting together on holiday some day and recording an
\nacoustic tune or so I cannot see us on stage again. It would take
\nsupernatural events to happen.<\/p>\n
\nthink we have only scraped the tip of the iceberg. My message hasn’t
\nchanged, it has always been the Gospel of Paul, Jesus and Him crucified.
\nThat is a message the world will always need to hear.<\/p>\n
\nThere’s certainly less of a distinction between the secular and the sacred
\nin music. Sardonyx noted that their perspective changed from exclusively
\nseeking to save the lost to encouraging and helping the believer in their
\nwalk as well. Is Bride’s mission the same as it always was, or what is God
\ngiving you to speak now?<\/span><\/p>\n
\nlike and what they expect from the bands and artist. We are slowly
\nconnecting with a part of the younger generation, but most people buying our
\nCDs are not teenagers. I remember playing the King’s Place in Columbus, Ohio
\nmany years ago, maybe over 20 years ago, and Troy videoed the crowd waiting
\noutside the building to be let in to see us. I still remember their faces
\nand how young they were. I was younger then as well. Now I am much more
\nmature, grown up, if you will, and our crowd now are those same people grown
\nup, but still with that fire for rock and metal. My lyrics are a reflection
\nof the emails and messages I get from those that have continued to support
\nmy work. If I am inspired\u00a0 by what folks write to me, I write about it, and a
\nlot of that is now in my songs. I have always written very personal
\nmessages and just when I think I have nothing left to say, God fills my
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