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In mid-January I caught up with Neal Morse for an enjoyable and extended discussion on his forthcoming release Life & Times<\/a> and so much more. This is the second time I have had the pleasure of talking with this man of never-ending musical projects, and you can find my previous discussion HERE<\/a>. Yes, this is in no way a rock or metal release, but Neal’s work is worth covering, even when he leaves the hard rock realm like this.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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While what follows is a lengthy read, can you ever really have too much of Neal Morse? I can’t, so I included the bulk of our conversation. As you will hopefully see, Neal, for being as involved in so many projects as he is, and obviously a very busy man, is still very gracious and patient to spend the time he did with me. You will hopefully also see a man with a heart for God, who in all things seeks to determine and follow\u00a0the Lord’s leading.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Jeff McCormack: I know we\u2019re speaking today to discuss your new Life & Times<\/span> album, but the timing couldn\u2019t be more better to at least start off asking about the new Neal Morse Band album since you guys just spent the whole weekend together for it, and we\u2019re seeing what Mike (Portnoy) has been saying online about how he is \u201cblown away.\u201d What can you tell us about it? He says it is a single disc, but is it a concept album or what details can you share?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Neal Morse: Well, we haven\u2019t written words yet. There are a lot of recurring things, but I do not think it will be a concept album, but I am taking a step back from it for a few days to then come back to it with fresh ears. I want to pray about it, and feel out for what it wants to be. I\u2019m really not sure at this point, lyrically.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\"Neal<\/p>\n

JM: Mike says he is blown away, do you feel the same way? With the last record being praised so highly it makes the follow up tough, do you think you\u2019re on track to blow people away?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: I think so, yes, when we put it all together. It is really raw right now, but Mike is very gifted at hearing through rawness, he is much more gifted at that than I am frankly, at hearing the potential. I think he is right, it is really going to be a great record.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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JM: So, this is the third time around as the Neal Morse Band idea (as opposed to just Neal Morse), has the chemistry of the band changed much? Do you find they are contributing more as a band than when it was mainly you running the show? Is there more being brought to the table by everyone?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: Yes, it feels like a real team effort this time around. It takes longer. With more ideas, it took us longer to sketch it out this time, I think even longer than with Similitude<\/span> which was a double. It just takes longer if you are going to try everyone\u2019s ideas.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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\"Spock's<\/p>\n

JM: So you recently released the live Morsefest performance of Spock\u2019s Beard\u2019s Snow<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> in its entirety, as well as recording the new \u201cFalling for Forever\u201d<\/a> track with them a couple years back. Any future plans on more work with Spock\u2019s Beard for you?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: I don\u2019t know, we haven\u2019t talked about anything. There hasn\u2019t been any discussion, and they\u2019ve been working on a new record. Plus I\u2019ve been busy with Life & Times and the solo concerts and everything else.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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JM: And on the topic of other bands, any near future plans with your other bands Flying Colors<\/a> or Transatlantic<\/a>?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: There hasn\u2019t been any talk actually. I haven\u2019t heard anything, and my plates been a little bit full for the time being, I\u2019m just waiting to see what other people are feeling, and see when the time seems right and when we can make some music again.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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\"Neal<\/p>\n

JM: Okay, let\u2019s talk Life & Times<\/span>. Last time we spoke, I asked about the, at that time, recently released similar styled, Songs from November<\/span><\/a>. You mentioned it hadn\u2019t been as well received, or wasn\u2019t selling as well. So why release another one along the same stylings?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: I did it because I felt like it needed to be done. I was inspired to write the songs, and it was in me to do it. I don\u2019t do these things for sales. We cannot serve God and mammon. You can\u2019t spend too much time worrying about whether things sold or not, to me it is more about what God wants me to do at this time, and I felt like since I had been inspired to write these songs, and they were really good, I felt like I needed to make this record.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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JM: Well, you already kind of answered my next question, but what would you say is your agenda, you purpose in releasing albums like this, or albums in general? When you sit down to write songs, is it with an intent to have a specific message, just to put out what is on your heart, or just something for pleasure?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: Their all a little bit different. Many of the songs on Life & Times<\/span> I wrote while I was on vacation. When I go on vacation with my family, a lot of times we listen to what I would call \u201cfeel-good\u201d music; music with a nice groove. I really enjoy that stuff, it just has a good feeling to it. I\u2019ve always wanted to make a singer-songwriter album with that feel to it, and with this album I am really seeking after that. I can\u2019t quite put my finger on it, as I know more about prog, which is like the opposite kind of thing. Where you want to do things that are more intricate, even though parts still have a really good feeling. But to do these songs that are just a light and good feeling, like “Joanna,” “Livin\u2019 Lightly,” and “Selfie in the Square”\u2026I want people to put it on and just go aaaaaaaahhhhh. To feel like they can just relax and enjoy life a little bit. With the exception of “He Died at Home,” which is the heavy song.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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JM: Let\u2019s talk about some of the songs. Some of them sound very autobiographical, some maybe not so much. So are they coming from experience, or just from watching too many hallmark movies? (laughs) “Livin\u2019 Lightly” is pretty self-explanatory; a feel good, slow down and enjoy things song. But “Good Love is on the Way,” I doubt it is autobiographical, unless you had a man-bun at some point. (laughs)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: It\u2019s kind of an interesting story. The album was done, and I had borrowed this guitar from my friend\u2019s shop, and it just felt good to me. I don\u2019t even know why I was playing it, I just picked it up while I was talking to him because he has a lot of guitars around. It was a Tele, and I had never really played a Telecaster before, but it just felt so good in my hands. So I said \u201cHey, can I borrow this?\u201d \u2014 I just had a feeling about it for the album. And I used it on almost every track on the album \u2014 that guitar through a little Fender amp, because I wanted to get a smaller sound because it was a smaller sounding album.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Then we went on this coffee-crawl with our church, where we went to all the main coffee places in Nashville one day just to have fun, and give, and be together. So I was in all of these coffee places with groovy pretty girls and groovy dudes all working there. At the end of the day, the guy from my church who loaned me the guitar (Roger) said \u201cI feel like you\u2019ve got one more song to do on that guitar, so I\u2019m going to leave it with you.\u201d Then he looked me in the eye and said \u2014 \u201cReally.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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The album was done, and was going to mastered on Thursday, and this was Saturday. I had written “Good Love is On the Way” about two days before that, but the album was in the can pretty much. So I just kind of wrote that with some of the impressions that I had, like the little romances budding in these places. A lot of these young people have come from all over the country to make it in Nashville, and I\u2019ve talked to quite a few of them, and I know their stories, So that is where that song came from.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Then I started thinking, \u201cMaybe I should record that song,\u201d and so I began to pray about it, and I didn\u2019t feel like I had some kind of mandate about it particularly, but just decided to take a step. So I emailed Scott Williamson, the drummer, and asked \u201cIf I got you a track, could you play drums on it at home and send it to me?\u201d And he emailed me back right away and said, \u201cSure!\u201d So I got up Sunday morning, laid down a scratch vocal and a scratch guitar and a click track and sent it to Scott, and I went off to church. When I got back from church I had a drum track, and so I spent all day Monday recording everything else that is on that song.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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The miracle of miracles was when I contacted Christ Carmichael, the strings player. He is always booked for months in advance, it seems. He is super busy but I sent him an email on Monday saying \u201cHey, I\u2019ve got this song, I think it could use strings, but I am sure you\u2019re too busy, but if by some miraculous reason you could do the strings tomorrow, maybe Rich could mix it on Wednesday, and master it on Thursday. Chris just sends me back an email saying, \u201cThere may be a miracle in the offing.\u201d So I sent Chris the track, he sent Rich the strings, and “Good Love is On the Way” is like this last minute thing that just happened.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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JM: Wow, that is an amazing story, I\u2019m glad I asked, and thanks for sharing. Moving on, \u201cJoanna\u201d \u2014 who is she, she sounds great. Real or fiction?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: Joanna is my son\u2019s (Will) girlfriend, and she broke up with him last February I believe. They were broken up until about May I believe, and they were apart. Now, my son plays his emotions pretty close to the vest, so he acted like he was okay. So what I am writing in Joanna is my sense of what Will really felt about her and about them being broken up. I know that he thought they were going to spend their lives together, and that he was probably never going to feel that way about anyone else. So I was writing that about Will and Joanna.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

JM: Wow, another great story, and it appears to be having a happy ending. So, \u201cSelfie in the Square\u201d sounds pretty obviously to be something you went through. My fifteen year-old daughter heard the song when I first played it, and said \u201cHe is too old to be singing about selfies.\u201d (laughs)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: Yes, ha ha, I read that in your review<\/a>. That\u2019s funny, because I didn\u2019t really think about it because I take selfies all of the time because I\u2019m travelling by myself. I am literally always taking selfies and sending them to my wife.\u00a0 I had actually considered calling the album either \u201cSelfie\u201d or \u201cSelfie the Square\u201d since it is kind of autobiographical; almost like a travel log. I think it was Sherry (wife) that said \u201cUh, the whole selfie thing sounds like you\u2019re trying to be too young, and a little bit girlie.\u201d (laughs)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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JM: So I guess my daughter picked up a little on that too. (laughs)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: Yeah. So I got a laugh out of that one when I read it (in my review – JM<\/a>). Whether I am too old or not, it is what I did, it is the truth, so we can rest in that.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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JM: You\u2019ve already kind of mentioned “He Died at Home,” and the video has more of the story, but is there anything or anyone personally that you know that influenced you to write on the topic?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: Yeah, there are three things that contributed to that song. Years ago I was in a prayer meeting near Fort Campbell in Clarksville, and a lady got up and said \u201cWould you please pray for our men, we\u2019re going to a funeral almost every week,\u201d and they\u2019d just say he died at home. So that always stayed in my heart.\u00a0 And then I had lunch with a friend who asked me to pray for his roommate Marcus, who was an ex-military guy who was troubled and taking drugs and what not. And then when we were on the Similitude<\/span> tour, we were in Paris, and I got a text saying \u201cMarcus is dead.\u201d He had overdosed.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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So I was walking around Paris, and I was crying, and praying about that whole thing, and I just started to sing some things in that song. But I realized I didn\u2019t really know that much about PTSD, so I went to Starbucks and Googled soldier suicides, and I ran across this article in the Guardian about William Busbee. I read the article and was really touched by it, and went back to the venue and wrote the song.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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JM: Wow, another great story. While I have never personally known anyone who has gone through that, you really make me feel like I did with your song.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: A lot of the lyrics were taken directly from the article, I didn\u2019t make a lot of that stuff up.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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JM: Cool. Okay, so moving on. Since what you have told me about Joanna, I now wonder, is \u201cShe Changed Her Mind Again\u201d about her?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: (Busts out laughing) Ha ha, uh\u2026 I can\u2019t talk about that one. (laughs) But Joanna did change her mind, and they are back together.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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JM: Not fair, not I am enticed even more, but fine, moving on. \u201cWave on the Ocean,\u201d pretty self-explanatory, fun loving, groovy song.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: Yeah, just recalling my July trip to California, and driving up the coast with my wife \u2014 recalling the feeling of that and being with her, and the joy of the Lord. \u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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JM: \u201cYou, Me and Everything\u201d seems apparently autobiographical, and \u201cManchester\u201d tells briefly the story behind the confusion of the chorus. Anything you\u2019d like to say about those?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: Yes, \u201cYou, Me and Everything\u201d is totally autobiographical about the early days with my wife in the early days when we were so poor and all of that. I wrote \u201cManchester\u201d while in Manchester on the Similitude<\/span> tour, and I was just enjoying looking at things and writing about them. So a lot of the lines are from the street signs and billboards there. I wrote a lot more verses that didn\u2019t get used.\u00a0 The funny thing about the whole \u201cManchester By the Sea\u201d deal, is that the film won an Academy Award not so long before that, and the phrase was in my mind.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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\"Manchester<\/p>\n

So I wrote the song, and was singing it to myself and enjoying it, and it wasn\u2019t until later that I realized that it was a different Manchester. That is the Manchester on the East coast, and there is no water near Manchester, UK. (laughs) So then I was stuck. I liked the melody, and tried to think of alternate lyrics. I mentioned it to my friend in UK, and he said to send it to him and he\u2019d see what he could do, since he is also a song writer. So I sent it, and he immediately sent back that whole part that became the last verse and chorus, which is so funny. \u201cManchester\u2019s got no sea, that just some bad geography; This Manchester\u2019s got no bay, that\u2019s the one in the USA.\u201d He really saved the song, because I was ready to scrap it since I couldn\u2019t think of any else that fit to say.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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JM: \u201cLay Low,\u201d another laid back, self-explanatory feel good song. But \u201cOld Alabama,\u201d a beautiful song, but who is from Alabama?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: A good friend of mine, a bass player I was in a cover band with in LA back in the day, George Poppanastos, and he was from Alabama. We used to ride to the gigs together all of the time. And he would tell me stories about Alabama. I probably wrote that song about 1993 when I was dating a girl who was a country singer that asked me to write some songs for her. That was one I wrote for her. It was one I always really liked, but it never fit anywhere to be released before, so I was determined to put this song on here.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Julie Harrison, who sings it on the record, is a dear friend of the family, and we sing in church together a lot. Sometimes we end up being on vacation together, and so my son, she and I like to sing three-part harmonies, and “Old Alabama” is one we\u2019d always sing by the campfire. I\u2019m really happy to have it see the light of day.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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JM: Then you end things up with \u201cIf I Only Had a Day,\u201d which as I mentioned in m review, reminds me of your previous song on November, \u201cMy Time of Dying.\u201d Why the reoccurring theme?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: Seize the day is always a good message, for all walks of life. But what happened was, a year ago December, we were working on Flying Colors 3, and I was in Florida. I had watched something on television the night before about someone who only had like six months to live, and when I woke up the next day, I just wanted to write a song from start to finish. A lot of times, with the prog stuff and the bigger projects, it just doesn\u2019t work out that way. I just had this burning desire to just sit down and \u00a0write a whole song, to not get up until I wrote the whole thing. So I just started tinkering around on my guitar, and I wrote \u201cIf I Only Had a Day.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\"Neal<\/p>\n

JM: So, with all of the interviews you do, is there ever a question that you never get asked, that you wished you were asked?<\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: Oh wow! I suppose\u2026well, even that I get to talk about occasionally. My favorite topic to talk about is Jesus, and God has put me in such a cool place, because I talk to a lot of atheists.\u00a0 So I\u2019ll be talking to an atheist (interviewer) and they\u2019ll ask, \u201cSo please tell me, why did you become a Christian?\u201d I\u2019ll be like \u201cI\u2019m so glad you asked.\u201d It is what most Christians would be loved to ask, but a lot of times you don\u2019t get the opening to share what God\u2019s done, in a way that you feel people might be willing to receive it.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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JM: Sadly, you are not a \u201cname\u201d in the Christian industry. You don\u2019t find your material on the shelves of most Christian retailers, but are still mostly popular in a secular market. Do you ever feel a pressure to cater your lyrics to fit a more secular fan-base, and not necessary a Christian one? Do you consciously write differently because of that?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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NM: No, I don\u2019t feel any pressure in that way. I feel like the people that I work with, and everyone that I\u2019m involved with, understand where I\u2019m coming from and are supportive. Mainly, it is kind of like, I pray more for wisdom. I want to have the wisdom to know what to say and when. I pray a lot about the lyrics, and ask \u201cGod, what do you want me to say here?\u201d Its wanting to say things in a way that will be received.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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JM: Perfect, thank you so much for your time.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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